PK Podcast 007: Jules Pretty, Travels With Enduring People In Vanishing Lands

PK Podcast 007: Jules Pretty, Travels With Enduring People In Vanishing Lands

Innu man tends a fire outside a canvas tent
Innu Camp, Labrador. Photo: Jules Pretty

Listen To Episode 7 Of The Paul Kirtley Podcast

Jules Pretty OBE, Professor of Environment and Society at the University of Essex joins me to discuss his book The Edge Of Extinction: Travels With Enduring People In Vanishing Lands, the powerful messages it contains and his work in general.

Professor Jules Pretty
Professor Jules Pretty, OBE.

Travels With Enduring People In Vanishing Lands

Jules Pretty OBE is Professor of Environment and Society at the University of Essex, where he is Deputy Vice Chancellor.

He received an OBE in 2006 for services to sustainable agriculture.

Professor Pretty is an environmental scientist of world renown, the author of 18 books.

His academic work has focused on sustainable agriculture and the relationship between people and the land.

This very much comes to the fore in his latest book, The Edge Of Extinction: Travels With Enduring People In Vanishing Lands, which was published in 2014.

The book contains accounts from 12 environments and cultures from around the world. He documents travels to and time spent with people living close to the land, in deserts, in snow, high in the mountains, on grassy steppes, in coastal habitats and on farms in various places.

Using these varied examples Professor Pretty demonstrates that there are many different ways to live in cooperation with nature.

It was with this in mind, in the context of my interest in people’s relationship with nature through bushcraft and wilderness travel as well as the everyday experiences with nature that we can all have, that I wanted to invite Jules onto my podcast.

He very graciously agreed and our conversation forms episode 7 of my podcast.

Yurt with solar panel
Yurt with solar panel. Tyva, Siberia. Photo: Jules Pretty.
Finnish fisher men in a blizzard
Fishermen. Lake Puravesi, Finland. Photo: Jules Pretty.
Innu food in frying pans
Traditional Innu fayre in the field, Labrador. Photo: Jules Pretty.

How To Listen To This Podcast

You can listen to this podcast here on my website by using the player above. Just press the play button.

You can download the podcast episode .mp3 file by right-clicking on the download link to save the .mp3 file down to your local machine/device.

You can also subscribe on iTunes and on Stitcher or via my podcast-only RSS feed.


Click here to read or download the transcript of Paul Kirtley Podcast episode 007.

Thanks For Listening!

Thanks for joining me on this podcast. If you have any comments about this episode, please leave them in the comments section below.

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it using the social media buttons at the top of this page. Thanks!

And Finally…

Finally don’t forget to leave an honest review & rating on iTunes or on Stitcher.

Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated! They do matter in the rankings of this podcast and I read each and every one of them.

Books By Jules Pretty


Links To Items Mentioned In This Podcast


Jules Pretty, at the University Of Essex

Jules Pretty on Twitter

Jules Pretty on Facebook

100 Hearts & Habits

Related Material On Paul Kirtley’s Blog

Podcast 006: Winter Outdoor Life Tips, Thoughts And Perspectives

Favourite Films: Cree Hunters Of Mistassini

Podcast 003: Kevin Callan, The Happy Camper

The Difference Between Foraging And Living Off The Land: Bushcraft Show 2013 Presentation

Never Stop Learning: Pushing Your Comfort Zone

10 thoughts on “PK Podcast 007: Jules Pretty, Travels With Enduring People In Vanishing Lands

  1. I really enjoy this podcasts how we maintain our environment is something that is close to my heart. Jules Pretty had some interesting and intelligent views about how we live today with his comments on climate change I do believe governments of this world could do a lot more but somewhat interested what’s the end cost will be than saving the place that we live in

    1. Hi David,

      As always it’s nice to hear from you.

      I’m glad this podcast resonated with you – thanks for the feedback.

      Warm regards,


  2. Hi Paul, I just wanted to chime in and say how much I value your podcast series. Each episode has given me a sense of solidarity with the people you bring on and inspired me to continue my own endeavors in the out of doors.

    1. Hi Jason,

      Thanks for your comment. I appreciate you taking the time to give me some feedback and let me in on the effect my conversation with these guests have had on you and your perspectives.

      Warm regards,


  3. Excellent podcast (Chris Townsend one very good too).
    Really looking forward to future podcasts.
    Thank you, thank you , thank you.

  4. Paul, you’re a superb interviewer.

    I’m journeying my way through your podcasts and they’re all of such a high standard. Both in terms of choice of guest, subject matter and questions.

    If I’ve counted right, every one of your guests (so far at least) has said “great question” at some point, and it’s clear they really mean it – I don’t feel this common enough in interviews generally. Your choice of questions and the manner in which you encourage and steer these fascinating individuals to indulge us with their incredible experiences is a real credit to what you’re doing with these podcasts. They need to reach a wider audience – the content is so valuable.

    Well done that man, I can’t wait to continue.

    Cheers, Dan

    1. Thanks for your positive feedback Dan.

      I’m very happy to read you are finding every episode interesting and engaging.

      I’ll do my best to keep the guests (and great questions) coming 🙂

      Thanks again for your feedback. Keep in touch – let me know what you think of some of the later podcasts when you get to them.

      Warm regards,


  5. Hi Paul,

    I’m a new arrival to your podcasts after finding some of your work on youtube. Listened to four of them so far and have to say two of them were totally absorbing. Not dissing the other two (no names no pack drill) but just wanted to say the two in question were top drawer and whetted my appetite for finding more of the same.

    Love what you do pal, keep it up. The quality of your work is head and shoulders above the rest. Love the podcast transcripts as well, it’s good to read back after listening. Really really appreciate all the effort.

    Thanks so much

    Kind regards,


  6. I’ve simply copied and pasted my post from Facebook. Very good podcast, Paul.
    Outward Bound or Larry Dean Olsen showed us that everyone ought to ‘get lost’ in the wilderness to lose their hang-ups. Troubled kids, dysfunctional in society, were brought to Larry Dean Olsen to straighten them out. After a week of surviving alone (under distanced supervision, and by close examples), most of these messed up teens went off to make something useful to society. The success rate far outweighed the failures. It’s all about teaching them, and making them responsible for their lives, by using nature to its optimum. Even now, native Elders, not scolding, but leading by example, have re-indianized citified teens, by encouraging them to unplug their ears full of modern noises, and teaching them to listen to the wind again. It’s been slower for them, but progressive.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.